UFC 128 Newark, NJ March 19 Rua vs Jones

[zY|]

Are you saying you dont think fighters take dives in fights?

I'm saying Schaub didn't and it's asinine to think so.

[zY|]

Lol at you guys.

[MMA_scientist]

I am sure fighters take dives, but Roy was (and is IMO) a way better fighter than Schaub (who only had like 3 fights at the time). Schaub nearly lost like 3 times in the TUF house, he had to come from behind in every fight to win. I had a very large bet on Roy because I was almost postive he would beat Schaub. There is no reason to think Schaub took a dive in that fight. If he was going to, it would have been a lot easier and less painful to let Roy hold him down and sub him of love tap him until the ref pulled him off. Roy took him down and Schaub got back up.

I know that fighters take dives, but I do not think guys purposely get knocked unconscious very often (Schaub or Stevonson). If Stevenson ever took a dive it was against Sotiropolous. He just did not look like he was trying to win, but he wasn't taking a lot of damage either. That is how you take a dive.

[Luke]

What could possibly be the upside to Nelson winning TUF over someone like Schaub who is young, very talented yet raw, and nothing but upside?

That wasnt my question. I didnt ask if he thought Schuab took a dive against Nelson I asked if he thought fighters never take dives in general

[poopoo333]

Ok guys my comeback has to start here. What do you guys think the best bets on this card are (or will be)?

[edman5555]

Ok guys my comeback has to start here. What do you guys think the best bets on this card are (or will be)?

I know Joseph Benavidez is a badass. I have to read about Ian Loveland though.

[poopoo333]

I am curious to see the lines on Miller/Shalorus and Faber/Wineland. I can't really find video on Wineland, but I know his game is striking and Faber's is his grappling. Anybody have any input on this fight?

[edman5555]

I think Miller will win but I wont be betting on him. Shalarous has the tools to win...

[edman5555]

Elliot marshall might be decent bet if he is a big dog.

[edman5555]

So far I am liking Nate Marquardt, Faber, Benavidez. On top of that maybe Edson Barboza, Cro cop, Gleison Tibau. I think this will be a good weekend for me.

[Luke]

I think Miller will win but I wont be betting on him. Shalarous has the tools to win...

LOL what tools? I'll be stunned if Miller DOESNT destroy Shalarous . I'd put the line at -250

[edman5555]

LOL what tools? I'll be stunned if Miller DOESNT destroy Shalarous . I'd put the line at -250

He has the wrestling to stop Millers takedowns and he is tough as nails in the standup. I know he is raw and he kinda sucks but he can swing for the fences and take whatever punishment Miller throws at him. I think Miller has the clear advantage but I won't be placing a significant bet on him at FAV odds. I bet he will be like -350.

[SPX]

He has the wrestling to stop Millers takedowns and he is tough as nails in the standup. I know he is raw and he kinda sucks but he can swing for the fences and take whatever punishment Miller throws at him. I think Miller has the clear advantage but I won't be placing a significant bet on him at FAV odds. I bet he will be like -350.

I agree that his wrestling should be better. His wrestling is actually top notch.

He also has a lot of power. Just watch the Will Kerr fight. If he hits Miller like that it could be goodnight.

Of course Miller should be favored, though. He will probably win. But if he's -350 I will be on Shalorus or nothing.

[edman5555]

I'm reading about Eddie Wineland. He seems pretty good. He's a former wrestler with powerful hands. I could see Faber having trouble with him. What do you guys think?

[Luke]

Faber cant lose Dana is getting ready to set up Cruz vs Faber as the next TUF coaches and that would runi his plans