UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

[MMA_scientist]

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[zY|]

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265 lb 2009 NCAA champion Mark Ellis joins AKA.

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[Luke]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

Line keeps getting higher. No way I'm betting anymore than 1 unit at -130 or higher.

[edman5555]

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Cain is going to finish off at +200 or better IMO. It's still early for bets on him but if you look at the trend...He started at -105 and now he is up to +150. As the fight nears everyone will pour in on Lesnar. Everyone will forget how close Lesnar came to getting beat when he fought Carwin. They will just remember him winning and sleep on Cain. Nobody has seen Cain fight in a while either, that doesn't help his cause. I think he has a great chance of winning. Just like Shane did, and still does.

[edman5555]

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I have a question. What will Brocks actual fight weight be. He said he was 265 for Carwin, not cutting any weight. Does anyone beleive that? It seems reasnable to me but I guess he could lie.

[Luke]

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I have a question. What will Brocks actual fight weight be. He said he was 265 for Carwin, not cutting any weight. Does anyone beleive that? It seems reasnable to me but I guess he could lie.

I say 275 -280. I dont believe he was 265 for the Carwin fight but I have no proof.

I mean if he wasnt cutting anything why would he have weighed right at 265? Why not 264 ,264.5 or 263? Again I have no proof so Im just guessing

[edman5555]

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Yeah exactly. That was suspect to me too. But he did make a beleivable point..since his disease which was diet induced, he has been eating a much healthier(im presuming lower fat) diet. And I bet his camp is the max of professional sports trainers so they could have decided that since brock was down to the 265 range because he dropped a lot of his body fat that he could work out and build muscle up to the 265 mark.

I don't know if that makes sense when i type it but it does in my head. I'm saying they can keep his weight at exactly 265 pounds because they are the top of the line professionals at it. It sounds suspect that he weighs 265 but if he dropped enough fat and weighed 280 to begin with...with a proper regimen you could actually pinpoint your weight if you had the right group behind you.

[SPX]

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It's also possible that he had to cut weight, but it was only something like 2 or 3 pounds. So for all intents and purposes, Lesnar essentially "doesn't have to cut weight" and maintains around the 265 mark.

[Luke]

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Jake Shields Announces UFC 121 Fight With Martin Kampmann .Its official now

[SPX]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

Should be a good fight.

WAR KAMPMANN!

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

Nice test for Shields... Kampmann impressed the hell out of me against Thiago, but I think Shields will win it.

[Mr. IWS]

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Nice test for Shields... Kampmann impressed the hell out of me against Thiago, but I think Shields will win it.

agree on both counts.

[Ludo]

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Shields should win, if Kampmann doesn't sprawl and brawl him to death. That Technical striking is a killer for a guy like Shields.

I think in a three round fight Shields can win a decision. I don't see Kampmann having enough time in fifteen minutes to land the amount of strikes he'd need to for a TKO. I also don't think he can avoid the takedown forever while doing it in a three round fight. I'd put this at a 60-40 scenario leaning toward Shields.

The likely outcome is Shields will eventually get the takedown after eating a bunch of punches that didn't collectively scramble his eggs and ride Kampmann out or submit him from top position.

[Luke]

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^^^ If you think its 60/40 for Shields you wont be betting him .I'm guessing the line is going alot higher than 60/40 but I could be wrong

[Ludo]

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Your right, Luke, I probably won't touch this fight either way. I want to see how Shields stacks up against a top level measuring stick. Thats not to say Kampmann is anywhere near top flight but he just exposed one guy who was over hyped, and he has the skill set to expose Shields if Shields is indeed not on par to be in the UFC. This fight will help Me truly gauge where Shields really is on the pecking order for future reference.