Ufc 130

[Thewisemann]

Based on WHAT? He's had ONE fight since he got dominated by Fitch, and it was the fight against Howard, someone who fights nothing like Fitch. Did you hear a rumor that he took some kind of magic pills between then and now or something?

Based on because Thewiseman said so.

[Ludo]

Quinton Jackson vs. Matt Hamill
Frank Mir vs. Roy Nelson
Travis Browne vs. Stefan Struve
Brian Stann vs. Jorge Santiago
Rick Story vs. Thiago Alves
Miguel Torres vs. Demetrious Johnson
Kendall Grove vs. Tim Boetsch
Renan Barao vs. Cole Escovedo
Chris Cariaso vs. Michael McDonald
Gleison Tibau vs. Rafaello Oliveira

[Ludo]

I agree Grove's chin is a concern but Boetsch is making his first cut to 185 and Grove has like 7 inches in height advantage here. I actually see this one going alot like the Munoz fight without the come from behind knockout.

[MMA_scientist]

I agree Grove's chin is a concern but Boetsch is making his first cut to 185 and Grove has like 7 inches in height advantage here. I actually see this one going alot like the Munoz fight without the come from behind knockout.

I agree, except Boetch is no where near as good as Munoz. I think Grove wins too, I almost bet him.

[Ludo]

Thats what I was getting at. Boetsch is nowhere near as good with the ground and pound or with the reversals on the ground as Munoz is. I have this image in My head of Boetsch chasing Kendall around the octagon all fight long getting picked apart by long jabs and knee strikes.

[Thewisemann]

Boetsch is gonna get handled. Grove is a great bet.

[edman5555]

Thiago barely made weight for the Fitch fight. I think it contributed to his poor performance. It was actually the reason I bet Fitch by Dec. Regardless, Story does have a chance though. I still may bet Alves.

[poopoo333]

Yeah alves making weight doesn't make him a better wrestler. He is better with his diet now not wrestling

[edman5555]

yes but when you are severly dehydrahted it makes it harder to resist a takedown because you don't have as much strength.

[Thewisemann]

If I had a bankroll, these would be my bets,
Hamil .5u to win 1.25u
Alves 4.2u to win 2u
Grove 3u to win 2u
Torres 1.3u to win 1u
Stann 1u to win 1.15u
Tibau 3.35u to we in 1u
I would be looking to hedge on Hamil. Make these bets and you will be +.

[Thewisemann]

yes but when you are severly dehydrahted it makes it harder to resist a takedown because you don't have as much strength.

Exactly

[Luke]

Just watched the weigh ins ,everyone made weight. Alves weighed 170 and looked good, Nelson was fat, Mir looked to be in great shape and that's about it .


Not much else happened except for Joe Rogan calling Matt Hamill "Mark" but don't think Hamill heard it because he didn't acknowledge the mistake

[Ludo]

Not much else happened except for Joe Rogan calling Matt Hamill "Mark" but don't think Hamill heard it because he didn't acknowledge the mistake

[poopoo333]

[poopoo333]