Ufc 130

[poopoo333]

Scientist, how's this for a potential Scientist special?

Not Maynard by sub, Not Hamill by sub, Not Stann by sub, Not Browne by sub, Not Nelson by sub, Not Johnson by sub

[Vandelay]

U might be able to include not guida by tko and not brookins by tko from the tuf finale if those props are out.

[poopoo333]

Speaking of that, I think I might bet Brookins if the line is good. I think people are going to obsess over the "Brookins left his chin out there and was getting tagged by Johnson" thing.

[MMA_scientist]

Scientist, how's this for a potential Scientist special?

Not Maynard by sub, Not Hamill by sub, Not Stann by sub, Not Browne by sub, Not Nelson by sub, Not Johnson by sub

Do not like.

[poopoo333]

What ruins it for you?

[Vandelay]

Which one dont you like? Only one I can envision happening is the mighty mouse sub

[Thewisemann]

Not nelson by sub. Mir could tap to strikes

[Vandelay]

Mir just gives up. He doesnt really tap. If he absorbed the beatings that Lesnar and Carwin dished out (and vera too). I doubt he taps to a nelson pounding.

[poopoo333]

I really have no idea about Nelson/Mir. I am leaning Mir but I think I will just stay away

[MMA_scientist]

What ruins it for you?

Well it depends on the payout. Now that I look at it again in a little more detail, it will probably hit. I would be a little tiny bit worried about Stann, even though Santiago has never been subbed, Stann is coming out massively improved in every fight now, and he subbed that one grappler guy. And I have a little concern about Johnson, not much though. It is probably worth a bet if you can get -300 on it. I don't know anything about Browne's ground game... Struve is overrated on the ground though, someone decent could definitely submit him.

[MMA_scientist]

Oh and Hammill and Rampage, I would just take whoever has better odds, since neither will submit the other.

On a side note, these things hit regularly for me. I wish some other books would start offering more props. Who else offers props besides 5d?

[edman5555]

Oh and Hammill and Rampage, I would just take whoever has better odds, since neither will submit the other.

On a side note, these things hit regularly for me. I wish some other books would start offering more props. Who else offers props besides 5d?

You should parlay all those not so and so by sub with whatever straight bets you make. I did that with Not Rory inside the distance for 129 and it worked out great. That was at -410 by itself.

[Vandelay]

Santiago is a grappler with a questionable chin. Stann will definitely look to knock him out and I dont think its likely that he would catch the bjj black belt in a sub off his back. Browne is a brawler who is fighting a superior grappler.

[MMA_scientist]

You should parlay all those not so and so by sub with whatever straight bets you make. I did that with Not Rory inside the distance for 129 and it worked out great. That was at -410 by itself.

I do that for arbitrage all the time. For example I bet Ellenberger @ -210, but then wanted out of it, but I could only get Pierson @ +165. So I did Pierson/not Machida by sub/not something else... and I actually had a + arbitrage. I do that all the time.

As for just doing to beef up returns, I said I was going to do that a while back, but I never have started doing it yet.

[MMA_scientist]

Santiago is a grappler with a questionable chin. Stann will definitely look to knock him out and I dont think its likely that he would catch the bjj black belt in a sub off his back. Browne is a brawler who is fighting a superior grappler.

I generally agree... but he caught Massenzio (although admittedly it was because Massenzio gassed out). I know nothing of Browne's ground game.

Torres probably would not get subbed either, but he has been guillotined by a physically stronger fighter before...

I might change my mind and roll with poopoo on it.