Ufc 130

[MMA_scientist]

Story is getting no respect AGAIN. I will take Story at that line. Going to let the Mir/Nelson line flush out, I think I can get better odds on Nelson in a fight I see as a coin flip.

[poopoo333]

I am not sure how to look at Nelson/Mir.

[MMA_scientist]

I am not sure how to look at Nelson/Mir.

I think the grappling is about even, but Roy will probably take top position with his commitment to top position. Mir is more willing to work off his back, and I don't this he will catch Roy, but he definitely COULD. Standup, I think it is close to even, edge to Mir. I see it as a true toss up.

Mir struggles with guys that can actually grapple. Pe De Pano, Vera, Lesnar, Carwin... he did beat Nog. I also think Roy's superior cardio might help him.

[Mr. IWS]

I think the grappling is about even, but Roy will probably take top position with his commitment to top position. Mir is more willing to work off his back, and I don't this he will catch Roy, but he definitely COULD. Standup, I think it is close to even, edge to Mir. I see it as a true toss up.

Mir struggles with guys that can actually grapple. Pe De Pano, Vera, Lesnar, Carwin... he did beat Nog. I also think Roy's superior cardio might help him.

IIRC, (and I know this was years ago) but Mir was schooling Nelson at that NAGA event for the first few minutes, but like usual, he gassed out. Ill have to look at it again to be sure.

[Mr. IWS]

[Mr. IWS]

^^^^^^^^When Mir hit that escape at around the 5:58 mark, that was about it for him. LOL at that lazy shot when they were both standing.

[MMA_scientist]

^^^^^^^^When Mir hit that escape at around the 5:58 mark, that was about it for him. LOL at that lazy shot when they were both standing.

lol, you think you posted the vid don't you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dj5xMeXybs

Mir hits a lateral drop to go up 2-0, then MAYBE gets another 2 for a guard pass ( it is not clear that Roy ever re-establishes guard) ... but then he gets swept making it 4-2, then he taken down making it 4-4. Then Mir gasses out and Roy scores a couple more times. But Mir had a bunch of advantages for his submission attempts. I look at it 2 ways, if Mir didn't get the throw right away, he might have gotten shut out entirely because all his points came off of that. But on the flip side, had he thrown Roy like that in MMA, he probably would have pounded him out or gotten the submission.

Roy has definitely gotten bigger and stronger since that vid though, so I don't know that Mir is going to be throwing him again. But then again, Mir was close on a couple of armbars and had been in a mean mood, he might have just broke some shit off.

[Luke]

Not really. Lots of places had this reported. Even bodog put odds up for the fight lol.

Luke, imo there is no fucking way Rampage will be -200

-235 isnt far off -200 , you acted like I was on a completely different planet and the line was going to be -500

[poopoo333]

-235 isnt far off -200 , you acted like I was on a completely different planet and the line was going to be -500

Opened at -260. I knew you were gonna say something lol. I figured it would have opened at like -285

[Luke]

Opened at -260. I knew you were gonna say something lol. I figured it would have opened at like -285

I didnt mean just you or anything by it,you guys had me thinking I was crazy for thinking it was going to be low lol

[edman5555]

I think Rampage should win but I wouldn't underestimate Hamil. He has very good wrestling and he is strong as an ox.

[Svino]

I think Rampage should win but I wouldn't underestimate Hamil. He has very good wrestling and he is strong as an ox.

I agree. I might bet Hamill at the current odds. Compare their striking vs. Jardine, for example. And the fact that Rampage had some problems with Evans' wrestling.

[edman5555]

Yeah Hamill is not that bad at all. He was a three time D3 national champion.

[Luke]

Miguel Torres vs. Brad Pickett official for May's UFC 130 in Las Vegas http://t.co/Gu8sLS6

[poopoo333]

How do you guys feel about the Edgar/Maynard rematch? I think Edgar is going to win.