UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

[Luke]

Re: Lesnar vs Velasquez

Pretty much.

ok just checking

[sbjj]

Re: Lesnar vs Velasquez

I think it is safe to say that there is a decent amount of Cain haters out there also. As many of them thought he would lose to Kongo, Rothwell(LOL), and then Nog was going to outbox him, and then school him on the mat. many people kinda hate the guy and his whole Brown Pride tat.

I personally actually like Brock more as a character, and think he is the best thing to happen to MMA in quite some time. I just think Cain is the better fighter. I think he is faster, technically better on the feet, and is probably just as good a wrestler. his stamina might be better, but Brock might be fine there also. Both guys seem to have good heart and sturdy beards. But people who think that Lesnar is just going to bully Cain around, even though he could not really even bully Randy are mistaken IMO.

[sbjj]

Re: Lesnar vs Velasquez

^^^^^ I think at +105 Cain is a horrible bet ,at +200 it would probably be worth a shot( I still wouldnt bet it at +200 )

I would lay 5K on Cain @ +200. Not kidding.

[ManBoobKilla]

Re: Lesnar vs Velasquez

Well good. I don't want a consensus with my upset pick.

Im with you definatly! I think Cain will beat Lesnar. The difference between Carwin and Cain is Cain has cardio for days, Better technical boxing, he is faster, and still has KO power. And I believe he is a better athlete. Cain via rd2 tko

[AC88]

Re: Lesnar vs Velasquez

^^^^^ I think at +105 Cain is a horrible bet ,at +200 it would probably be worth a shot( I still wouldnt bet it at +200 )

I would lay 5K on Cain @ +200. Not kidding.

You're calling Cain for this fight too? I seriously think Cain is a lock. Hell, I will try to save enough money so I even have 5k to put down to begin with.

[SPX]

Re: Lesnar vs Velasquez

You're calling Cain for this fight too? I seriously think Cain is a lock. Hell, I will try to save enough money so I even have 5k to put down to begin with.

I think that's a rather liberal use of the term "lock."

[Luke]

Re: Lesnar vs Velasquez

Well good. I don't want a consensus with my upset pick.

Im with you definatly! I think Cain will beat Lesnar. The difference between Carwin and Cain is Cain has cardio for days, Better technical boxing, he is faster, and still has KO power. And I believe he is a better athlete. Cain via rd2 tko

Again how do you know Cain has great cardio? I keep hearing this but I'm not getting any answers.

I heard a ton of people "say" Carwin had great cardio and the 5th round would be his best and we see how that went.

Cain was tired at the end of the Kongo fight and that was a 3 rounder

[Luke]

Re: Lesnar vs Velasquez

^^^^^ I think at +105 Cain is a horrible bet ,at +200 it would probably be worth a shot( I still wouldnt bet it at +200 )

I would lay 5K on Cain @ +200. Not kidding.

I had someone offer me Cain at +200 and I could lay 1200 to win 2400 before the odds came out and I passed

[Luke]

Re: Lesnar vs Velasquez

I think that's a rather liberal use of the term "lock."

I think thats the dumbest use of the term lock I've ever heard

[sbjj]

Re: Lesnar vs Velasquez

^^^^^ I think at +105 Cain is a horrible bet ,at +200 it would probably be worth a shot( I still wouldnt bet it at +200 )

I would lay 5K on Cain @ +200. Not kidding.

I had someone offer me Cain at +200 and I could lay 1200 to win 2400 before the odds came out and I passed

Wish I knew that guy. I would have done it just to hedge. No way cain should be +200, he should not even be +140 or +150 IMO.

[sbjj]

Re: Lesnar vs Velasquez

I'm not sure I'd use lock. But this kinda reminds me of GSP-Hughes 2. I think I have enough info. on both fighters to give Cain a legit edge in the fight...Once again, jusy my opinion.

[Luke]

Re: Lesnar vs Velasquez

Wish I knew that guy. I would have done it just to hedge. No way cain should be +200, he should not even be +140 or +150 IMO.

I would have done it just to hedge but I thought the line was going to open around -220 so there was no point. Had I knew it was going to be this low I could of made a quick 500

[edman5555]

Re: Lesnar vs Velasquez

Cain has better stand up, better BJJ, and better cardio. He might not be able to outwrestle Brock in the beginning but if he can wear him down..yes I think he will out wrestle him. Cain also has the ability to mix up wrestling and striking much better than Brock which will make Brocks takedowns much harder to pull off.

How do you know Cain has better cardio? Because someone told you he did? I saw people and websites were saying Carwins best round was the 5th lol.

No I'm not stupid so I don't listen to what "someone told me". I don't know where you heard his best round was the 5th. Kind of a dumb thing to mention but thanks anyways. He seems to fight hard pretty long in all his fights. In addition to that he weighs about 245. You saw what happen to Shane who weighed 280 pounds, he punched himself out. If that was Cain throwing those punches he would not have gassed like that. I don't think there are many fighters who have ever gassed that quick after the first round. Weight has a lot to do with it.

[edman5555]

Re: Lesnar vs Velasquez

Lesnar went from -125 to -150 on Sportsbook. I can't wait to make a shitload off this when Cain gets great underdog odds!

That's exactly what I'm hoping for. Soon enough everyone will forget the assraping Brock took in that first round and just think "oh well he beat Carwin, hes the best!"

[edman5555]

Re: Lesnar vs Velasquez

Well good. I don't want a consensus with my upset pick.

Im with you definatly! I think Cain will beat Lesnar. The difference between Carwin and Cain is Cain has cardio for days, Better technical boxing, he is faster, and still has KO power. And I believe he is a better athlete. Cain via rd2 tko

Again how do you know Cain has great cardio? I keep hearing this but I'm not getting any answers.

I heard a ton of people "say" Carwin had great cardio and the 5th round would be his best and we see how that went.

Cain was tired at the end of the Kongo fight and that was a 3 rounder

None of us ever said Carwin had great cardio. His trainer said that, and of course we all know not to believe whatever they say. It was a obvious question mark because he had never been out of the first round.