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  • zY|
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 8385

    Re: Off topic thread(basketball,movies,etc whatever)

    Originally posted by Luke
    Originally posted by zY|


    It's really simple. There are 2 community hands. One is called player, the other is called banker. You pick which one you think will win (or you can pick a tie). This is the only decision you make.

    After that, the dealer deals the cards and they add them up and more cards are dealt depending on what is in the hand, but it doesn't matter because it's all predetermined.

    Ironically, it's a game that can fuck the casino up since a lot of high-rollers (azns) play it. The house advantage is solid, but it's pretty low (1.2%) so extremely high betting with some volatility can provide big winnings sometimes.

    Is there anything you can do (like counting cards) that can turn the game into an advantage for you?
    Not that I'm aware of. Obviously there are some people who claim they can, but the math doesn't support it and the overall consensus is no.

    What you'll always see is everyone with pads and pencils. There's a display like in Roulette that shows what the last winners were and people look for patterns, but it's all hocus-pocus.
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    • SPX
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 23875

      Re: Off topic thread(basketball,movies,etc whatever)

      Originally posted by zY|
      As far as betting systems go, I agree that some are better than others. It's basically just bankroll management, which always helps. Personally, I like the Iron Cross strategy in craps. It actually has worse odds than simply paying pass w/odds and 6/8, but goddamn is it fun. You basically get paid on everything but 7 and get tons of action.
      Yeah, I got some strategies I use for roulette sometimes where, on a good night, you can pretty consistently get SOME sort of return on most spins. I've made money quickly using it. But then there are times where the ball just lands everywhere else and you lose quickly, too.

      I have that roulette book that I linked to yesterday and it's got an interesting chapter on how to modify certain classic betting systems to improve your chances of success.
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      • Luke
        10 year vet
        • Oct 2006
        • 30060

        Re: Off topic thread(basketball,movies,etc whatever)

        I've seen casinos sometime have 500x odds on craps .Its the best I've seen .Is that any good and what does it even mean?
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        • poopoo333
          MMA *********
          • Jan 2010
          • 18302

          Re: Off topic thread(basketball,movies,etc whatever)

          When I am old enough, how about an IWS weekend in Vegas?!?!?!?!?!

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          • Luke
            10 year vet
            • Oct 2006
            • 30060

            Re: Off topic thread(basketball,movies,etc whatever)

            Originally posted by poopoo333
            When I am old enough, how about an IWS weekend in Vegas?!?!?!?!?!

            I go every year so I'm up for it .I usually go the first week of Sept but this year we went in May because we couldnt wait .
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            • SPX
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 23875

              Re: Off topic thread(basketball,movies,etc whatever)

              Originally posted by poopoo333
              When I am old enough, how about an IWS weekend in Vegas?!?!?!?!?!
              The idea's come up before.

              I wouldn't be opposed. . .
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              • zY|
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 8385

                Re: Off topic thread(basketball,movies,etc whatever)

                Originally posted by Luke
                I've seen casinos sometime have 500x odds on craps .Its the best I've seen .Is that any good and what does it even mean?
                It means you can take odds up to 500x your pass line bet. I'm not sure how much you know about craps, but 'taking odds' is the best bet in the casino. There is zero house advantage. The catch is it can only be taken if you're already on the pass line and after the point has been established. Therefore it essentially works to lower the HA on the initial pass line bet (1.41%).

                So if you put take out single odds (same bet as passline bet), the HA goes from 1.41% down to 0.85%. If you take double odds, (double the passline bet), then it goes down to 0.61%. The more odds you can put down, the lower the house advantage. At 10x odds, it's down to 0.18%. Most tables I've seen only offer up to 10x odds.

                500x odds sounds badass. The house advantage has got to be so small it's essentially nonexistant. Of course you have to have a huge bankroll for that, considering the minimum passline bet is usually $5, and probably more in Vegas where that's offered.
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                • zY|
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 8385

                  Re: Off topic thread(basketball,movies,etc whatever)

                  BTW I had to go get my casino math book out for that.
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                  • Luke
                    10 year vet
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 30060

                    Re: Off topic thread(basketball,movies,etc whatever)

                    Originally posted by zY|
                    Originally posted by Luke
                    I've seen casinos sometime have 500x odds on craps .Its the best I've seen .Is that any good and what does it even mean?
                    It means you can take odds up to 500x your pass line bet. I'm not sure how much you know about craps, but 'taking odds' is the best bet in the casino. There is zero house advantage. The catch is it can only be taken if you're already on the pass line and after the point has been established. Therefore it essentially works to lower the HA on the initial pass line bet (1.41%).

                    So if you put take out single odds (same bet as passline bet), the HA goes from 1.41% down to 0.85%. If you take double odds, (double the passline bet), then it goes down to 0.61%. The more odds you can put down, the lower the house advantage. At 10x odds, it's down to 0.18%. Most tables I've seen only offer up to 10x odds.

                    500x odds sounds badass. The house advantage has got to be so small it's essentially nonexistant. Of course you have to have a huge bankroll for that, considering the minimum passline bet is usually $5, and probably more in Vegas where that's offered.

                    This was offered in a casino in Illinois. The best I've seen in Vegas is 100x .I know zero about craps. I dont even know what a pass line is
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                    • Luke
                      10 year vet
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 30060

                      Re: Off topic thread(basketball,movies,etc whatever)

                      Originally posted by zY|
                      BTW I had to go get my casino math book out for that.
                      whatever it takes
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                      • zY|
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 8385

                        Re: Off topic thread(basketball,movies,etc whatever)

                        Originally posted by Luke
                        This was offered in a casino in Illinois. The best I've seen in Vegas is 100x .I know zero about craps. I dont even know what a pass line is
                        Other than counting cards in blackjack, the pass line w/odds is the best bet in the casino. It's the basic bet for craps.
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                        • Luke
                          10 year vet
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 30060

                          Re: Off topic thread(basketball,movies,etc whatever)

                          Originally posted by zY|
                          Originally posted by Luke
                          This was offered in a casino in Illinois. The best I've seen in Vegas is 100x .I know zero about craps. I dont even know what a pass line is
                          Other than counting cards in blackjack, the pass line w/odds is the best bet in the casino. It's the basic bet for craps.


                          my knowledge of craps:

                          alot of black people play it

                          people yell and scream all the time while playing it

                          people look like they're having fun playing it
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                          • zY|
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 8385

                            Re: Off topic thread(basketball,movies,etc whatever)

                            Originally posted by Luke
                            Originally posted by zY|
                            Originally posted by Luke
                            This was offered in a casino in Illinois. The best I've seen in Vegas is 100x .I know zero about craps. I dont even know what a pass line is
                            Other than counting cards in blackjack, the pass line w/odds is the best bet in the casino. It's the basic bet for craps.


                            my knowledge of craps:

                            alot of black people play it

                            people yell and scream all the time while playing it

                            people look like they're having fun playing it
                            LOL all true.

                            You should try it. The black people are hilarious. They come up and yell some weird slang and throw chips all over the place.
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                            • SPX
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 23875

                              Re: Off topic thread(basketball,movies,etc whatever)

                              I've read about craps, and seen people play craps, but I've actually never played the game myself.

                              I'd like too, but I'd have to have someone kind of show me the ropes.
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                              • zY|
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 8385

                                Re: Off topic thread(basketball,movies,etc whatever)

                                I can't believe that degenerates like you guys don't know how to play craps.
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