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  • SPX
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 23875

    Originally posted by Luke
    I agree. I like her, but a lot of the stuff she does is suspect. She also hangs around Mike Tyson who is a convicted rapist and domestic abuser

    You really think Tyson did it?
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      • Luke
        10 year vet
        • Oct 2006
        • 30060

        Originally posted by SPX
        You really think Tyson did it?
        Yes. We're talking about the guy who bit of someones ear in front of millions of people
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        • Luke
          10 year vet
          • Oct 2006
          • 30060

          Originally posted by Mr. IWS
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          • SPX
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 23875

            Originally posted by Luke
            Yes. We're talking about the guy who bit of someones ear in front of millions of people
            Well I don't think he did it.
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            • Luke
              10 year vet
              • Oct 2006
              • 30060

              Originally posted by SPX
              Well I don't think he did it.
              Why? The guy was a loose cannon.
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              • SPX
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 23875

                Originally posted by Luke
                Why? The guy was a loose cannon.
                I'm not saying he's not crazy as shit. I just don't think he's a rapist.

                This is what Tyson recently said about it:


                “I didn’t rape her,” he says. “They wanted to convict me more than anything in the world. There’s not a person in the history of that state that got convicted for rape that did less time than I did. They wanted to be known for the state that convicted me. If the hanging judge really believed I did that, they would have given me 60 years. But they gave me six, which got cut down to three.”

                “Dershowitz claimed that she’d cried wolf once in the past,” I note.

                “And what, you put yourself in a situation like that twice?” he says. “I just thought that was bullshit. I didn’t have a good image at the time and was very foul-mouthed. It’s just stereotypes. If you’re big, black, and strong, you’re a rapist; if you’re smart and Jewish, you’re a tax cheat; if you’re an Italian in a nice suit, you’re a fuckin’ gangster; if you’re a Latino, you’re having a bunch of babies and making money off welfare. These are stereotypes, and we get convicted in this country based on these stereotypes.”
                I've heard that claim before, that this wasn't the first time Washington had accused someone of rape. So what's the deal, she just has the bad luck that everyone wants to rape her?

                I obviously don't know if he did it or not but I don't think he did. And as he said, I think that once the accusation was made the conviction was guaranteed simply because he was the person that he was at the time.
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                • Luke
                  10 year vet
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 30060

                  [QUOTE=SPX;472689]I'm not saying he's not crazy as shit. I just don't think he's a rapist.

                  This is what Tyson recently said about it:




                  I've heard that claim before, that this wasn't the first time Washington had accused someone of rape. So what's the deal, she just has the bad luck that everyone wants to rape her?

                  I obviously don't know if he did it or not but I don't think he did. And as he said, I think that once the accusation was made the conviction was guaranteed simply because he was the person that he was at the time.[/QUOTE]

                  Don't agree with this statement. This is the country who let OJ Simpson off because he had money. Tyson had more money to defend himself with.

                  Read this article:

                  Mike Tyson's conviction for rape came as little surprise to his former manager, who claims the ex-boxer could have been the greatest of all time but for his 'weakness for women'.


                  Tysoon has been arrested several times for attacking people. Robin Givens has said several times he attached her physically and sexually.

                  Then there's this testimony:

                  "Partial corroboration of Washington's story came via testimony from Tyson's chauffeur, Virginia Foster, who confirmed Desiree Washington's state of shock. Further testimony came from Thomas Richardson, the emergency room physician who examined Washington more than 24 hours after the incident and confirmed that Washington's physical condition was consistent with rape"


                  No one can be certain what happened unless they were there, but my opinion is he did it
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                  • SPX
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 23875

                    Originally posted by Luke
                    Don't agree with this statement. This is the country who let OJ Simpson off because he had money. Tyson had more money to defend himself with.
                    That's true, but at the time OJ was known as a beloved sports hero and wasn't thought of as an uncouth thug like Tyson was.


                    Originally posted by Luke
                    Read this article:

                    Mike Tyson's conviction for rape came as little surprise to his former manager, who claims the ex-boxer could have been the greatest of all time but for his 'weakness for women'.


                    Tysoon has been arrested several times for attacking people. Robin Givens has said several times he attached her physically and sexually.
                    I actually read that article. And I guess I had a different takeaway. What I got from it was that Tyson liked to fuck a lot of girls, and he also was a popular and wealthy person, so it was inevitable that one of those bitches would eventually attempt to extort him with a rape charge.


                    Originally posted by Luke
                    Then there's this testimony:

                    "Partial corroboration of Washington's story came via testimony from Tyson's chauffeur, Virginia Foster, who confirmed Desiree Washington's state of shock. Further testimony came from Thomas Richardson, the emergency room physician who examined Washington more than 24 hours after the incident and confirmed that Washington's physical condition was consistent with rape"
                    I knew that about the hospital visit, but I believe Tyson's defense there is that she liked shit really rough, which is plausible. I was unaware of his chauffeur's testimony though. I'd say of all the things you've presented that's the one that would make me think a little harder about the case.
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                    • Luke
                      10 year vet
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 30060

                      Originally posted by SPX



                      I knew that about the hospital visit, but I believe Tyson's defense there is that she liked shit really rough, which is plausible. I was unaware of his chauffeur's testimony though. I'd say of all the things you've presented that's the one that would make me think a little harder about the case.
                      There's always two sides to every story, so you cant know for sure without being there. Guilty or not guilty means nothing to me. To be honest, I think our jury trial court system is a joke.
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                      • SPX
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 23875

                        Originally posted by Luke
                        There's always two sides to every story, so you cant know for sure without being there. Guilty or not guilty means nothing to me. To be honest, I think our jury trial court system is a joke.
                        It's definitely imperfect and a lot of innocent people have gone to prison because of it. But try as I might--and I have--I haven't been able to come up with anything better.
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                        • Luke
                          10 year vet
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 30060

                          Originally posted by SPX
                          It's definitely imperfect and a lot of innocent people have gone to prison because of it. But try as I might--and I have--I haven't been able to come up with anything better.
                          I think starting with a jury of intelligant people--rather than the 12 you think you can influence the most to side with you--would be a good place to start renovations
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                          • SPX
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 23875

                            So did high5 just come in, say hello, bust a mic drop and leave?
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                            • SPX
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 23875

                              Axl and Slash finally burying the hatchet?
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                              • Luke
                                10 year vet
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 30060

                                Originally posted by SPX
                                So did high5 just come in, say hello, bust a mic drop and leave?
                                Isn't that pretty much what he use to do ?
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