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  • Luke
    10 year vet
    • Oct 2006
    • 30060

    I want to see the Rory-Condit rematch personally. No idea why they are still giving Rory scubs.
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    • SPX
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 23875

      Originally posted by Luke
      Maybe only 18 to 14 in significant strikes but it was 25 to 14 in total strikes which is almost 2-to-1.Hendricks also landed the only TD of the round.
      I think that is the perfect round to demonstrate that bean counting doesn't work. Is it really just about numbers? A lot of those "non-significant" strikes were Hendricks kneeing Kos in the leg over and over.

      It just seemed to me that Kos was landing harder, knocking Hendricks back, and controlling the action, and for that I give him the round. I'm not the only person who feels that way, either. It's not like what I'm saying is controversial.
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      • SPX
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 23875

        Originally posted by Luke
        I want to see the Rory-Condit rematch personally. No idea why they are still giving Rory scubs.
        I think we'll get that eventually.
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        • Luke
          10 year vet
          • Oct 2006
          • 30060

          Originally posted by SPX
          I think that is the perfect round to demonstrate that bean counting doesn't work. Is it really just about numbers? A lot of those "non-significant" strikes were Hendricks kneeing Kos in the leg over and over.

          It just seemed to me that Kos was landing harder, knocking Hendricks back, and controlling the action, and for that I give him the round. I'm not the only person who feels that way, either. It's not like what I'm saying is controversial.
          I think you need to rewatch rd 1. Any yes, bean counting is how scoring is done when neither guy hurts the other in a rd. Hendricks could barely see half the round,Kos wasnt knocking him back..........and he still outstruck him 2-to-1 with one eye.
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          • MMA_scientist
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 9857

            Originally posted by SPX
            I haven't seen them. Post it.
            On second reading, there is no actual gif of the eye poke. Still worth a read though, as Koscheck poke pretty much everyone in the eye, even in his wrestling days.

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            • MMA_scientist
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 9857

              Originally posted by Luke
              I want to see the Rory-Condit rematch personally. No idea why they are still giving Rory scubs.
              I think Rory will probably eventually be champion, but he does need to fight a couple guys that can wrestle him up first, or at least someone that can stop his takedowns. He has proved his prowess at ragdolling smaller guys and defending subs from top... It is not as if there is a shortage of wrestlers at WW, I don't know why he hasn't fought one yet. I don't want to see him get the Hardy treatment, get a title shot without ever having to face a wrestler, only to find out that he can't beat any grappler at all after he loses the shot.
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              • Ludo
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 4931

                Originally posted by SPX
                I think that is the perfect round to demonstrate that bean counting doesn't work. Is it really just about numbers? A lot of those "non-significant" strikes were Hendricks kneeing Kos in the leg over and over.

                It just seemed to me that Kos was landing harder, knocking Hendricks back, and controlling the action, and for that I give him the round. I'm not the only person who feels that way, either. It's not like what I'm saying is controversial.
                But what evidence do we really have that he was "landing harder"? Neither guy got opened up, knocked down, or put in a position where they were in danger of losing the fight by strikes in the round.
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                • Svino
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 3873

                  Originally posted by poopoo333
                  http://www.mmaoddsbreaker.com/news/u...etting-review/

                  Svino, you will find this interesting.
                  Thanks for that link; it's interesting in quite a few ways. Obviously, it's written as an ad for BetDSI. I'm surprised to see that the house won on the Hendrick / Kos fight. I do wonder what the units are when he reports the results.

                  Also, I guess BookMaker must have also their offices in Central America (or maybe the Caribbean) because they also didn't have live betting on the last two undercard fights, where he said rain blocked out the BetDSI satellite feed.

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                  • zY|
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 8385

                    They should let Rory rag doll future champ as a tuneup fight.
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                    • zY|
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 8385

                      Things i learned today. Bean counting doesn't work, relying on shitty judges does.

                      Also, knees to the thigh are usually counted as significant strikes, unless they just barely graze or there is no distance between them.
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                      • SPX
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 23875

                        Originally posted by zY|
                        Also, knees to the thigh are usually counted as significant strikes, unless they just barely graze or there is no distance between them.
                        Source?

                        I heard the Fight Metric guy on the SRN the other day and he said that "significant strikes" are normally from range, not little shit in the clinch against the fence.
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                        • Luke
                          10 year vet
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 30060

                          Originally posted by SPX
                          Source?

                          I heard the Fight Metric guy on the SRN the other day and he said that "significant strikes" are normally from range, not little shit in the clinch against the fence.
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                          • SPX
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 23875

                            Originally posted by Luke
                            If you dont start answering my texts I'm going to send a giant elephant to rape you in the middle of the street
                            Well fuck, I certainly don't want THAT now do I?
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                            • Svino
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 3873

                              Originally posted by Luke
                              I think you need to rewatch rd 1. Any yes, bean counting is how scoring is done when neither guy hurts the other in a rd. Hendricks could barely see half the round,Kos wasnt knocking him back..........and he still outstruck him 2-to-1 with one eye.
                              FWIW, I believe this was Ricardo Almeida's first UFC event as a judge and he was the guy who called round 1 for Koscheck.

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                              • zY|
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 8385

                                Originally posted by SPX
                                Source?

                                I heard the Fight Metric guy on the SRN the other day and he said that "significant strikes" are normally from range, not little shit in the clinch against the fence.
                                All strikes from distance and power strikes in the clinch or on the ground.

                                Source: http://blog.fightmetric.com/2011/01/...es-landed.html
                                Last edited by zY|; 05-10-2012, 01:37 AM.
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