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  • SPX
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
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    Do sportsbooks care if you win?

    Maybe some of you guys can clarify this for me.

    I've heard of some guys getting banned from books because they were winning too much, but if the losers pay the winners then they shouldn't care if you win or lose.

    Thoughts on this? Anyone heard of players getting banned for winning too much on sportsbetting?
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  • Mr. IWS
    215 Hustler
    • Sep 2006
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    #2
    Re: Do sportsbooks care if you win?

    I never heard of that, but I could see them all the sudden, not taking action from a guy who is killing it.

    Ive heard of local books putting a cap on how much a guy can bet though.
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    • Luke
      10 year vet
      • Oct 2006
      • 30071

      #3
      Re: Do sportsbooks care if you win?

      Yes I have heard of sportbooks banning players but most of the time they just cut their limits

      The one sportbook that I have heard of banning a player is sportsinteraction.They sent him a email saying his account was closed .When he called they made him talk to security and they told him they could no longer book his action.They paid him all his money though

      Most sportsbooks that get hit just limit you .5dimes and betjamica are the worst ones for this .I have heard from several people 5dimes cutting their limits to 25 dollars per bet and betjamica cutting players limits to 1 dollar per bet.

      If you stick with thegreek or bookmaker this will never happen

      You got to think of it from a books point of view. Would you rather have 50 winners and 50 losers and just pick up the juice or ban the 50 winners and keep just the 50 losing bettors around?
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      • triathlete
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        • Jan 2010
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        #4
        Re: Do sportsbooks care if you win?

        Yet another reason to have multiple books, I guess.

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        • SPX
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 23876

          #5
          Re: Do sportsbooks care if you win?

          Originally posted by Luke
          Yes I have heard of sportbooks banning players but most of the time they just cut their limits

          The one sportbook that I have heard of banning a player is sportsinteraction.They sent him a email saying his account was closed .When he called they made him talk to security and they told him they could no longer book his action.They paid him all his money though
          That's fucking bullshit.

          Originally posted by Luke
          . . .and betjamica cutting players limits to 1 dollar per bet.
          I could make that work. . .

          Originally posted by Luke
          If you stick with thegreek or bookmaker this will never happen
          What makes you so sure?

          Originally posted by Luke
          You got to think of it from a books point of view. Would you rather have 50 winners and 50 losers and just pick up the juice or ban the 50 winners and keep just the 50 losing bettors around?
          I can understand the logic of that, but I mean, that's not even what they go for is it? I mean, they intentionally set the lines to attract equal action on both sides and move the lines to make sure that happens. So it seems that looking at it that way, the winners are really their partners in a sense, providing a service that they need.
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          • Luke
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            • Oct 2006
            • 30071

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            Re: Do sportsbooks care if you win?

            Luke wrote:
            If you stick with thegreek or bookmaker this will never happen

            What makes you so sure?

            Because these two book have the highest betting limits of anyone and I have never even heard of them cutting someones limits let own banning anyone


            You can read up on sportsboooks that ban ,cut limits, and dont pay at the sbrforum
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            • Luke
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              • Oct 2006
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              Re: Do sportsbooks care if you win?

              can understand the logic of that, but I mean, that's not even what they go for is it? I mean, they intentionally set the lines to attract equal action on both sides and move the lines to make sure that happens. So it seems that looking at it that way, the winners are really their partners in a sense, providing a service that they need.

              90% of books only want losers.I mean truthfully if you had 50 guys that won 1000 bucks every week and you had 50 guys that lost 1000 would you be happy collecting the 5000 in juice or would you be happier banning the 50 winners and collecting 55000 every week. These books are all businesses and most of them have shareholders so their main concern is how can they make the most money

              Every book in vegas will limit you or tell you they cant book your bets anymore and every book except about 5 online books will do the samething.

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              • SPX
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 23876

                #8
                Re: Do sportsbooks care if you win?

                Originally posted by Luke
                Because these two book have the highest betting limits of anyone and I have never even heard of them cutting someones limits let own banning anyone
                Bookmaker has the highest betting limits? I've always thought of their limits as being very low. Bodog's are always much higher.
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                • Luke
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                  • Oct 2006
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                  Re: Do sportsbooks care if you win?

                  Originally posted by SPX
                  Originally posted by Luke
                  Because these two book have the highest betting limits of anyone and I have never even heard of them cutting someones limits let own banning anyone
                  Bookmaker has the highest betting limits? I've always thought of their limits as being very low. Bodog's are always much higher.

                  Maybe for MMA but for football,basketball,boxing and baseball bookmaker and the greek are the big guys

                  In boxing bookaker usually has 2000 limits. In football its 5000 I think .Most books are afraid of MMA because they dont know much about it so thats why the limits are so low at most books
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                  • SPX
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 23876

                    #10
                    Re: Do sportsbooks care if you win?

                    Originally posted by Luke
                    Maybe for MMA but for football,basketball,boxing and baseball bookmaker and the greek are the big guys
                    I've never even herad of the greek. Do they do MMA? If they do, it seems like they'd be on bestfightodds.

                    Originally posted by Luke
                    In boxing bookaker usually has 2000 limits. In football its 5000 I think .Most books are afraid of MMA because they dont know much about it so thats why the limits are so low at most books
                    I know Bookmaker always throws up its initial lines at $250 and even after they increase them it's usually only to maybe $500.

                    Who do you go to if you want to make $20,000 bets?
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                    • Luke
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                      • Oct 2006
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                      Re: Do sportsbooks care if you win?

                      Originally posted by SPX
                      Originally posted by Luke
                      Maybe for MMA but for football,basketball,boxing and baseball bookmaker and the greek are the big guys
                      I've never even herad of the greek. Do they do MMA? If they do, it seems like they'd be on bestfightodds.

                      Originally posted by Luke
                      In boxing bookaker usually has 2000 limits. In football its 5000 I think .Most books are afraid of MMA because they dont know much about it so thats why the limits are so low at most books
                      I know Bookmaker always throws up its initial lines at $250 and even after they increase them it's usually only to maybe $500.

                      Who do you go to if you want to make $20,000 bets?

                      Yeah thegreek does MMA but its usually 500 limits like everyone else.I just looked and thegreek has 25k limits on the NFL but 500 for MMA lol.

                      I think alot of it has to do with so many favorites win in MMA and books know it. I believe someday dogs will win more often and then books will raise their limits.

                      As for getting 20k down on a MMA fight I have no idea. You can probably get 1000-5000 down on a fight on matchbook but only a main event fight and you can get 500-1000 on just a regular fight.

                      20k might be impossible to get down on a fight unless you have 20 books and 10 local guys
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                      • SPX
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
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                        Re: Do sportsbooks care if you win?

                        Originally posted by Luke
                        As for getting 20k down on a MMA fight I have no idea. You can probably get 1000-5000 down on a fight on matchbook but only a main event fight and you can get 500-1000 on just a regular fight.

                        20k might be impossible to get down on a fight unless you have 20 books and 10 local guys
                        Okay, well that's good info for 10 years down the road when I've built my empire and I'm not using $20 units.

                        I wonder what the limits are like for MMA in Vegas. . .

                        Also, as for favorites, I think it's estimated that in about 30% of fights the underdogs win . . . what more would they expect?
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                        • Luke
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                          • Oct 2006
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                          #13
                          Re: Do sportsbooks care if you win?

                          Also, as for favorites, I think it's estimated that in about 30% of fights the underdogs win . . . what more would they expect?


                          I think they want 50/50 like in football ,basketball and other sports is my guess
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                          • Luke
                            10 year vet
                            • Oct 2006
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                            #14
                            Re: Do sportsbooks care if you win?

                            I wonder what the limits are like for MMA in Vegas. . .
                            probably the same 500

                            I never checked when I was down their though so its just a guess.I know they arent very high
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                            • SPX
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 23876

                              #15
                              Re: Do sportsbooks care if you win?

                              Originally posted by Luke
                              I think they want 50/50 like in football ,basketball and other sports is my guess
                              50% of underdogs win in football and basketball?

                              If that's the case then it seems you could just drop 1u on all the underdogs and score big!

                              I mean shit, the way I see it is that underdogs are the underdogs for a reason. . .
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